Monday, February 15, 2010

Cindaynati?

Are Cincinnati and Dayton, Ohio, on the road to becoming a single metropolitan area, or "metroplex", not unlike Minneapolis/St. Paul or Dallas/Ft. Worth? The Cincinnati Enquirer has raised that question, with additional commentary from The Urbanophile.

The expectation is that after the 2010 Census, the Cincinnati-Middletown and Dayton Metropolitan Statistical Areas would become a single entity. The rapid growth of the I-75 corridor between the two cities makes such a merger seem inevitable. Perhaps eventually leading to some sort of political merger as a mega-city of three million people!

Currently, the biggest thing connecting the two communities are the two very sorry Cincinnati sports franchises, the Bengals and the Reds. The cities have their own airports, television and radio markets. Their cultural and arts communities rarely interact, with separate professional theaters, symphonies and ballet companies. Hearty workers do commute in both directions. However, as a Daytonian I can say that I do not think of my self as a "Southwest Ohio Cincinnati-Daytonian"... Sometimes Cincinnati does not even feel like Ohio. I often think of Dayton as the last outpost of "the north", while Cincinnati feels to me like a southern city on the wrong side of the river... or as Ms. Cartophiliac often suggests, Cincinnati is its own feudal city-state.



It is going to take more than a Census Statistical merger to pull these two communities together. Dayton and Montgomery County can barely agree to cooperate on combined services. I think it will be some time before we see Cindaynati on the map.



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9 Comments:

At Monday, February 15, 2010 , Blogger Christine said...

Dayton: Half the fun of Cincinnati with none of the embarrassment.

 
At Monday, February 15, 2010 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At Monday, February 15, 2010 , Blogger Cartophiliac said...

Anonymous: You started with an interesting comment about the economy of Cincinnati then turned into a racist pig. Please stay away from this blog.

 
At Monday, February 15, 2010 , Anonymous Andy Woodruff said...

I've been interested in this subject for quite a while, coming from the Dayton end of it and being a big fan of Cincinnati. It's something I've always wanted to see addressed cartographically. Maps of detailed commuting patterns, media markets, etc., that together define where "Dayton" ends and "Cincinnati" begins. I flew right over the region at night recently, and was amazed to see that it looked even more connected than I expected.

But, though the inflated population numbers that a metro area merger brings are fun, these days I'd refrain from celebrating because it would feel like a celebration of hated sprawl.

Oh, also, I never quite got the idea of Cincinnati being "Southern." Maybe I am just not familiar with Southern cities, or the culture of Cincinnati. But the physical and man-made geography of the city always made it feel otherwise.

Finally, must point out urbanohio.com as a great place for topics like this.

 
At Tuesday, February 16, 2010 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It appears that Cleveland/Akron is in the same situation along I-77 and I-480.

 
At Tuesday, February 16, 2010 , Anonymous Matt said...

The map makes Dayton look as connected to Cincinnati as Akron is to Cleveland, and Akron has been in the same Consolidated Statistical Metropolitan Area as Cleveland for decades. (Oddly, Canton is not in the same CMSA as Akron.) I've always thought of Akron-Canton as being in the same blob of exurbia as Cleveland, as there's really no break between Solon, Twinsburg, Hudson, Stow, Tallmadge, etc. all the way down to Canton. It's also interesting to think of the Cincinnati-Dayton blob as Ohio's biggest "city," since Clevelanders have long thought of their city/region as being Ohio's big metropolis and Cincinnati as some revival-tent backwater with one foot in Dixie. The Cincinnati MSA actually surpassed the Cleveland MSA (which is part of the Cleveland-Akron CMSA) in population a couple of years ago.

If you want to take this to another level, you can include Youngstown-Warren in the Cleveland area of influence, since the people there get Cleveland TV, follow Cleveland sports teams and go to Cleveland for shopping, culture, sports and sometimes healthcare.

 
At Tuesday, February 16, 2010 , Anonymous Matt said...

PS: Remember this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpuCIT9rZg

 
At Wednesday, February 17, 2010 , Blogger Cartophiliac said...

LOL! That was before my time in Ohio... but its pretty funny anyway...

 
At Thursday, March 04, 2010 , Blogger Michael5000 said...

I was wonderin' about this when I was looking at maps of Ohio last fall. They are kind of... convergent...

 

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